"Compare the crimes we've had, what we see is the same downward trend," said Police Chief James Sheppard.
The good news: a downward trend in overall crime through the first nine months of the year. Sheppard says assaults, burglaries, stolen cars – those numbers have all dropped.
"We police different than we did 25 years ago, I think the smart policing, technology, the coordination, communication we have, and again, the community stepping up and helping us."
Now the bad. Shootings are on the rise. More than 170 people have been shot this year. Murder numbers are the same as this time last year, at 30.
Police have confiscated 886 guns; half known to have been used in crimes.
The chief, overall, is pleased with the numbers, but:
"Very much frustrated with the shooting incidents and the number of guns we find on the streets. We need to shut down where the guns are coming from. We need to change the mindset of this culture of violence where shooting someone is the way you deal with a dispute."
Of the 30 homicides in the city this year, arrests have been made in 20. Cooperation is an ongoing issue for city investigators.
A lot of homicides occur when there's no police around, and how we find out what occurred is somebody steps forward and gives us information, tells us who did it."
Other numbers: Robberies are up 15 percent. Sheppard blames a rash of stickups and thefts targeting cell phones for the spike.
Despite the struggles, and despite the ongoing battle, Sheppard believes his department is on the right track.
"We believe with our community engagement and reaching out to the community to assist us and establish good relationships, we believe that will continue to drive crime down."